sorry about the empty page here lately folks, between working (real, paying job) sleeping (which I cannot seem to get enough of lately) kids, NSO stuffies, and playing around with stuff on my own site,(if you’re interested, This is what I’ve been working on, note, its not done yet!) I’m afraid I’ve been rather lax in posting.
I have been keeping up (somewhat) with my reads, and the other day was reading THIS the other day over at MadBull’s blog, and one of the questions in the comments got me thinking (*authors note, I never said my posts had to make allot of sense!*)
Or should the state be able to dictate what we can or cannot use?
So naturally with the way my mind works at times, and considering “freedom” has been banded about allot here lately…how much right does the state and/or country we live in have to tell us what we can do and how to live our lives?
Now obviously there are ‘no brainers’ when it comes to this…if you kill someone obviously you’re going to go to jail (or at least I hope you are!) rob someone, assault, etc…you get my point here, but what I’m referring to are things that allot of people take for granted…and some of you might want to stop reading right here….
In every state in the US., in every country across the world (I’m fairly certain) if you are married in another state/country, if you move, that marriage is recognized…
IF you are a man and a woman
HOWEVER, if you are a same-sex couple, even if the marriage is legal where you obtained it, if you move somewhere where it’s not (legally) recognized, thats tough, you’re out of luck
U. S. and State Laws Defining Marriage. In 1996, Congress passed the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA, P. L. 104-199). That law limits marriage, for federal program purposes, to unions of one man and one woman. It provides that a state cannot be forced to recognize another state or country’s statutory or judge-made laws extending marriage to same-sex couples.
Between 1996 and 2000, 36 states passed laws generally modeled on the federal DOMA. Three also amended their constitutions to limit marriage to unions between two people of the opposite sex.
So, what you’re telling me is in this ‘land of the free’ I don’t even have the freedom to legally marry whomever I choose??
and before you pull out your ‘religion/god’ card…might I remind you, that this country was founded on people trying to escape religious persecution, and obtain religious freedoms, and as far as I’m aware there is still a law separating church and state.
yea, my mind seems to take some interesting twists and turns at times…
Regardless of any law…no one can ever regulate how you feel about another person. They may be able to brow-beat you into expressing or not expressing your feelings, but they cannot legislate or dictate your feelings. Love rules!
Well I”m very impressed with your post, but just as I told you on the phone this afternoon before you posted, the right to have a “legal” abortion was not a battle won over night, but WAS eventually won. So will the battle for same sex marriages I have no doubt. America is a great place to live, however, has some funny things about it. The seperation of church and state being a key part of the funny things about it, although yes it is a law to seperate the two, yet battles are still heard, aka prime example still abortion, on the statue of church beliefs, yet, abortion is still legal. You mark my words it won’t be too much longer before same sex marriages are recognized no matter if you are religious or not, it will be and IS a part of our culture ~ and SHOULD be recognized. My dearly departed Grandpa *you know the one who nick named me QueenBee long before anyone else seemed to see that nature of me LOL* once told me, God is very powerful, however, God can lead a horse to water and not make him drink. God can also lead you to someone to love yet not make you love him, your heart tells you who you love and if you can’t trust your heart then you can’t trust anything in life, much less God. He was right…..you love “TB”, she makes you happier than I’ve ever known you to be happy, I may not agree with the lifestyle you two choose or understand it, but as long as I see the two of you in love and happy, I’ll never question it…….you two are soul mates and belong together, but more important than that, you two DESERVE to be able to call each other husband and wife….and can someone PLEASE explain which is which on that call??? *wicked giggle* Note: please leave out all the “ewwwwwwww” factors along the way okay *S*.
Why not wife and wife?
Interesting… I think it should be wife and wife too, in this case.
Hi Red Eagle. As far as who you fall in LOVE with, that is something that we are not fully in control of, though I do believe that we all have ideals as to what we look for in a partner, whether that partner is of the opposite or same gender. I do not discriminate against people because of their sexual preferences. Why someone will choose (if it is something that one chooses, as some people may just not FEEL that heterosexual is RIGHT for them) to live a homosexual lifestyle, I cannot say. At the same time, as Jamie aluded to above, I don’t necessarily encourage homosexuality and perhaps I will never fully understand it as I just do not have those feelings.
Regarding same sex marriages, I am not so sure that I agree that it should become legal. Looking at marriage, it is a bond recognized by the church that is legal between a man and a woman. It ideally should be intended to endure a lifetime (note use of the word ideally) and should provide for the security of raising children. And yes, I am well aware that this security does not necessarily last, but even if a couple that have had children divorce, there are legal provisions made to ensure that the children are cared for until they reach an age that they can look after themselves.
The day will come (if it is not already here) that same sex couples —-(wife and wife or husband and husband for that matter) will want to have a child/children of their own….I am not referring to adoption or surrogates here. Do not think that it is impossible, there have been lots of advances made in reproductive medicine over the last 20-30 years. Should the State/Church recognize this sort of situation?? I can’t answer that question. But, I agree with what Jamie said. The world is changing rapidly, and we have had to learn to adapt accordingly.
Sorry to ‘big up’ my Jamaican chest and take up so much space in your comment box. But, anything to do with gender issues will always result in much labrish (chat).I will look out for more posts from you and even a response to this comment. Take care.